Post by nightclaw on Dec 1, 2014 6:35:58 GMT -5
Can I say I really fruckin like this right now? Its 6 am and its not like I'm going back to sleep, SO.
@wolfy
Instead of 'Human morality saves us'
what about the question, "Can any one moral ideal be better than the others"
like, the idea of champions based on the morals of a dimension/universe is godhead, I immediately had ideas evoking the ideas of family in Rome, ones of the endless Spartan pursuit of martial power, ones of the glory of the Pharaoh and all his ilk, ones of Honor and Glory being held above all by the Saxons and such.
but one thing that's becoming more pertinent today as globalization reaches new levels, and anyone the world over can have say in the affairs of anyone else, is there a set of ideals that is right? Is there one that is correct? One that objectively, is best for humans.
ultimately, using this, I see scenes of white collar liberals going toe to toe in debate with senators, Kim jong Un having philosophical debate with Ghandi, a grand roman centurian, his life devoted to the Emperor, seeing common ground between himself and a Pharaohs bodyguard, and ultimately having to do him in, because the glory of the Imperator overrides that of any other man.
As far as this going into actual, tangible Narrative mechanics to frame a story?
Every dimension has a certain moral style, right? So like wolfy said, lets take these morals, and make a champion of them, like the Roman Centurian, for glory of the imperium etc. Or a Spartan wife, devoted to the continuation of the conquering machine, etc. And pit them in MORAL challenges, rather than martial ones.
Say, instead of platforming across a pit, which doesn't serve the question at all, you might have a man coming home, describing himself having survived a horrible loss, battered and broken, wanting to come home to his family. In this case, the Centurian would guard him home, Roman family values and such, wheras the Spartan might kill him on the spot, for abandoning his unit.
as far as the McTokens, I'm not sure how they will factor in, but I think they should be like objective rankings of an ideal, given a set of circumstances that deconstruct the ideal themselves.
@wolfy
Instead of 'Human morality saves us'
what about the question, "Can any one moral ideal be better than the others"
like, the idea of champions based on the morals of a dimension/universe is godhead, I immediately had ideas evoking the ideas of family in Rome, ones of the endless Spartan pursuit of martial power, ones of the glory of the Pharaoh and all his ilk, ones of Honor and Glory being held above all by the Saxons and such.
but one thing that's becoming more pertinent today as globalization reaches new levels, and anyone the world over can have say in the affairs of anyone else, is there a set of ideals that is right? Is there one that is correct? One that objectively, is best for humans.
ultimately, using this, I see scenes of white collar liberals going toe to toe in debate with senators, Kim jong Un having philosophical debate with Ghandi, a grand roman centurian, his life devoted to the Emperor, seeing common ground between himself and a Pharaohs bodyguard, and ultimately having to do him in, because the glory of the Imperator overrides that of any other man.
As far as this going into actual, tangible Narrative mechanics to frame a story?
Every dimension has a certain moral style, right? So like wolfy said, lets take these morals, and make a champion of them, like the Roman Centurian, for glory of the imperium etc. Or a Spartan wife, devoted to the continuation of the conquering machine, etc. And pit them in MORAL challenges, rather than martial ones.
Say, instead of platforming across a pit, which doesn't serve the question at all, you might have a man coming home, describing himself having survived a horrible loss, battered and broken, wanting to come home to his family. In this case, the Centurian would guard him home, Roman family values and such, wheras the Spartan might kill him on the spot, for abandoning his unit.
as far as the McTokens, I'm not sure how they will factor in, but I think they should be like objective rankings of an ideal, given a set of circumstances that deconstruct the ideal themselves.